It may surprise some fans that the queen of homemade baking doesn’t enjoy overly sweetened drinks, but Martha Stewart explained, “I don’t like a lot of sugar, except in sugary cakes.” She further clarified that even when it comes to drinks such as tea, Stewart prefers unsweetened varieties from brands such as Pure Leaf.

Of course, a look at the ingredient itself offers a good explanation as to why she finds PSLs too sweet. Pumpkin spice gets its name because the spices typically included are those that are found in pumpkin pie. But you may be surprised at just how extra-sugary a pumpkin spice latte really is. A grande Starbucks pumpkin spice latte clocks in at a whopping 50 grams of sugar; for context, a slice of pumpkin pie has 25 grams of sugar on average. If pumpkin flavor itself is a draw for Stewart, we can see why she would prefer the real thing to the drink that shares a name.

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